Kwiminyaka esixhenxe eyadlulayo kwaye ndisendleleni ngololiwe ukuya eBerlin ukusuka eFrankfurt, ndadibana nabantu abasuka ePakistan ababesiya kwi-ITB. Ngethuba leeyure ze-6 kuloliwe, ndibe nethuba elihle lokuva kubo ukuba iPakistan inika abakhenkethi kwizinto ezininzi, kodwa ubukhulu becala intetho yayimalunga nokhenketho lwe-adventure ePakistan, apho abakhenkethi abadumileyo. K2, intaba yesibini ephakamileyo ehlabathini ikulungele ukuchukumisa iindwendwe. Ukususela ngelo xesha, ndandinethemba lokudibana noMphathiswa wezoKhenketho wasePakistan, ukuze ndifunde kuye ngelizwe lakhe. Kamva, saba ngabahlobo, kwaye sadibana iminyaka emininzi ngexesha le-ITB. Abahlobo bam nguMnu. Amjad Ayub, umongameli wePakistan Association of Tour Operatorsm kunye noMnu. Nazir Sabir.
Kwi-ITB yalo nyaka, ndidibene noMnu Amjad kwakuloo hotele, kwaye wandazisa ukuba uMnu Maulana Atta ur-Rehman, uMphathiswa wezoKhenketho ePakistan, uhamba kwi-ITB. Ndacela ixesha elifanelekileyo lokuncokola naye, yaye sadibana naye kwisikhululo sasePakistan.
eTN: Obekekileyo, ulapha kunye nababonisi abangaphezu kwe-10 abavela ePakistan ukukhuthaza ukhenketho kwilizwe lakho. Ngaba ungasixelela ukuba ngabakhenkethi baza kubona ntoni?
I-Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: IPakistan lilizwe elityebileyo kwiyantlukwano yalo, inkcubeko, kunye nokhenketho lokukhenketha, njengoko sinamaphondo amane aphambili kunye neendawo ezisixhenxe zokusingwa - iGilgit-Blatistan, NWFP, iPunjab, iSindh, iBalochistan, iAzad, neKashmir kunye ne-Islamabad. – nganye inezinto zayo ezinomtsalane kunye neenkcubeko ezahlukeneyo. Xa utyelela le mimandla, uziva ngathi ukwelinye ilizwe. Kwakhona, kwangaxeshanye, imozulu eyahlukileyo, kwaye ungawonwabela amaxesha amane okuhamba ngohambo olunye. Umzekelo, unako [ukusuka] kwingqele eqhaqhazelisa amazinyo [ukuya] kubushushu obugqithisileyo – sinehlobo emantla, kwaye ubusika busemazantsi.
IPakistan yindawo eyodwa yokuya [kwaye] ibonelela ngeemveliso ezizodwa kubakhenkethi. Abantu abasindwendwelayo bayonwabele ukuhlala kwabo [ngenxa] yobubele bethu kunye nento esibanika yona, kwaye bayandithemba, ukuba ayikho enye indawo ekusingwa kuyo kulo mmandla inokwahlukana [oku]khoyo ePakistan. Iimpawu ukusuka kummandla ukuya kummandla [zahlukile]; ulwimi, inkcubeko nayo yahlukile; imbonakalo yabantu nayo yahlukile; ke apha ungakonwabela kwaye ubuyele ekhaya unamava awomeleleyo kunye nohambo [olungenakulibaleka.
eTN: IPakistan ijongene nomphakamo wolwandle kwelinye icala neentaba kwelinye icala; bangabona ntoni abakhenkethi kuyo yomibini imimandla?
Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: Ewe, uyazi ukuba sine-K2, eyeyesibini intaba ephakamileyo ehlabathini. Into eyodwa [kukuba] xa uqhuba [nge] ibhasi, ungabona kwifestile yakho i-K2, engaphezulu kwama-8,000 eemitha [ubude]. Lo mbono awufumaneki nakweyiphi na enye indawo. Apha kwakhona sineentlambo ezintle kakhulu zokuphucula, imilambo, kunye needolophana ezincinci; kwanezintlango, iinqaba, nezixeko eziphithizelayo. Elwandle, iindawo zokuchithela iiholide kunye neehotele zibonelela ngendawo yokuhlala emangalisayo kunye nemibono yolwandle enezixhobo zemidlalo yolwandle. Nangona kunjalo, eyona nto inomtsalane wethu lukhenketho lokukhenketha kwi-K2.
eTN: Ucinga ukuba injani imeko yokhuseleko kubakhenkethi? Ngaba abakhenkethi kufuneka bakhululeke ngokuza ePakistan? Kuthekani ngokhuseleko, kwaye ucebisa abakhenkethi ukuba baye phi? Ukuba ndingumsebenzi womkhenkethi kwaye ndifuna ukumema abathengi bam ukuba bandwendwele iPakistan, ndibacebisa ukuba baye phi kwaye bangayi apho, ukuze abakhenkethi banamava amahle okubuyela ekhaya?
UMaulana Atta ur-Rehman: Ndiyakwazi ukubala ngeminwe yam, iindawo endingazicebisiyo, kodwa andinakuzibala iindawo ezikhuselekileyo nezimangalisayo. Amajelo angaphandle achasene nePakistan; bapapasha iindaba ezimbi nezingeyonyani kwaye bayayibaxa malunga nePakistan, engeyonyani, kwaye ichaphazela ishishini lethu lokhenketho, ke ngamajelo eendaba abonisa imifanekiso engalunganga yePakistan. Ngaphambi kweli phulo kumajelo angaphandle, abakhenkethi bebesiza ngamanani amahle, Ewe, sineendawo apho ezinye iingxaki zenzeka kunye nemiba ethile kwiindawo ezimbalwa zelizwe apho abakhenkethi bangafanele baye khona; ewe, sineengxaki kwiindawo ezifana [ne] Suat Area, kodwa [imithombo] yeendaba ayichazi ngokweenkcukacha ukuba zeziphi iindawo ezingakhuselekanga – bathi iPakistan ngokubanzi, asiyonyani leyo. Iindawo ezisemazantsi zikhuselekile ngokupheleleyo, iPenjab kunye nendawo ye-K2 zikhuselekile, kwaye kwakungekho ngxelo kwimbali malunga nezinto ezingakhuselekanga ezenzekayo. [Ummandla] wentaba [mhle], ucoceke kakhulu. Uninzi lwelizwe lethu [likhuselekile], kwaye ungababuza abantu abeze apha baze basityelela – baya kukuxelela ukuba bayonwabele kangakanani [oku], kwaye banokunika amagqabantshintshi kunye nezimvo zabo. Mhlawumbi ngenxa yokuba ndinguMphathiswa wezoKhenketho, abafundi banokucinga ukuba ndiphakamisa ilizwe lam, kodwa ukuba ubuza abo beze apha, baya kukunika ibali elichanekileyo, kungekhona kumajelo eendaba. Ndingakuqinisekisa ukuba iPakistan lilizwe elikhuselekileyo.
Silapha e-ITB Berlin, owona mboniso mkhulu wohambo, omele ilizwe lethu kwaye umema abakhenkethi ukuba beze. Ukuba sivakalelwa kukuba kuyingozi kubo, ngokuqinisekileyo asiyi kuza kwaye sime. Ungababona abakhenkethi abakhulu beza, kwaye bachitha imali ukuza, kodwa kuba beqinisekile ukuba iPakistan ikhuselekile. Yiyo loo nto belapha; asinako nangayiphi na indlela ukuba [siphembelele] abakhenkethi ngobuxoki.
eTN: Ewe, ndiyayiqonda imeko ojongene nayo kwezi ntsuku ePakistan, ndikhumbula mhla sasiqala eTurboNews eIndonesia kwiminyaka eyi-10 eyadlulayo; bekukho iingxaki kwindawo enye, kodwa oko akuthethi ukuba ezinye iindawo azikhuselekanga. Okwangoku, uvela phi abakhenkethi?
UMaulana Atta ur-Rehman: Uyazi, sifumana amawaka-waka abakhenkethi abavela eChina naseIndiya beza apha ePakistan, ngenxa nje yokuba bengathembi kwaye abamameli kumajelo eendaba abonisa iPakistan njengelizwe elivuthayo okanye eliyingozi. Bayeza kwaye bayakonwabela ukuhlala kwabo kwaye babuya benamava [ama] akhuthazayo kakhulu. Kwakhona, abakhenkethi abahambahambayo beza kuba besazi ukuba iPakistan yindawo ekhuselekileyo, kwaye ngenxa yokuba besithembile xa sasibaxelela [ukuba] bamkelekile, baphuma kuzo zonke iindawo zehlabathi.
eTN: Kuthekani ngokhenketho lwe-adventure?
UMaulana Atta ur-Rehman: Mna ndiyakholelwa ukuba ukhenketho lwe-adventure ePakistan lufana neMakah yokhenketho lwezenkolo. Nangona kulo mmandla sineNepal kunye nezinye iindawo, kodwa apha sineentaba ezinkulu njengeMpuma yeHimalaya kunye nezinye. Ngaphezu kweemitha ezingama-8,000 [ubude], [owona] mxokelelwane wentaba omde, siye sadala inkuthazo; bathatha iintlawulo kwaye banciphisa imirhumo yokutyelela iintaba - i-50 ekhulwini, le yinkuthazo enye - akukho nasinye isiganeko esibi esenzekayo. Apha unokwenza umkhondo, uphononongo, ukukhwela, nantoni na, ukukhwela intaba. Ulapha nje kweyona ndawo imangalisayo, kwaye ukhululekile ukuba uyonwabele kangangoko.
eTN: Enkosi; ndikunqwenelela amathamsanqa kulo mboniso.
