UWolfgang H. Thome, ixesha elide eTurboNews unozakuzaku, uthethe noGqr. Frauke Fleischer-Dogley, iCEO yeSeychelles Island Foundation malunga nomsebenzi abawenzayo kulo lonke elo chwebakazi, kuquka ne-Aldabra atoll eyaziwayo, njengoko yafundwa ngexesha lodliwano-ndlebe:
eTN: Lenza ntoni iSeychelles Island Foundation malunga nolondolozo lwendalo, indawo engaphaya kweziqithi osebenza kuzo?
Dr. Frauke: Makhe ndikunike isishwankathelo semisebenzi ye-SIF. Sijonge iziza ezimbini ze-UNESCO zeLifa leMveli zeHlabathi eSeychelles, kwaye sibandakanyeka ngokupheleleyo ngokubhekiselele kulondolozo lwendalo esingqongileyo, ukugcinwa nokukhuthaza ukungafani kwezityalo nezilwanyana zethu. Ezi ndawo zimbini yiVallee de Mai kwisiqithi sasePraslin kunye ne-Aldabra atoll.
I-Aldabra atoll ingaphezulu kwe-1,000 yeekhilomitha umgama ukusuka e-Mahe, ngoko ke sinemingeni emininzi yokufikelela kwindawo, ukuyinikezela, kunye nokulawula. I-atoll inembali enika umdla kakhulu, njengoko kwakudala yayisenzelwa ukuba ibe yindawo yasemkhosini, kodwa ngethamsanqa ezo zicwangciso azizange zenzeke emva koqhanqalazo oluzinzileyo phesheya, ngakumbi e-UK. Isiphumo se-u-turn, nangona kunjalo, kukuba i-Seychelles yacelwa ukuba yenze into kunye neziqithi kwaye emva koko isikhululo sophando sasungulwa kwi-Aldabra. Imvelaphi yaloo nto ibuyela ngo-1969, ngaphambi kokuba i-Seychelles izimele, kwaye uphando luqhubekile ngoku ngaphezu kweminyaka engama-40. Kwi-1982, i-UNESCO yabhengeza i-atoll njengendawo yeLifa leMveli yeHlabathi, kwaye iSiseko seSiqithi saseSeychelles ngoku sinoxanduva lwendawo ukusukela kwiminyaka eyi-31. I-SIF, eneneni, yasekwa ngeyona njongo ikuphela kwayo yokuqala yokuhoya nokulawula uphando olwenzeka kuyo yonke i-atoll. Ngenxa yoko, sinonxibelelwano olunzulu kunye nonxibelelwano neeyunivesithi ezininzi ezaziwayo kunye nemibutho yophando kwihlabathi liphela. Iinkqubo zethu zophando kunye neeprojekthi enye, ngokuqinisekileyo, iziko kubomi baselwandle, iingqaqa, njl., kodwa mva, sikwabeka iliso kwaye sirekhode utshintsho lwemozulu, utshintsho kubushushu bamanzi, amanqanaba amanzi; olu hlobo lophando lolunye lolona hambo lude lolo hlobo lwayo kuLwandlekazi lwaseIndiya, ukuba ayilolona hambo lude.
Konke oku kuthwala iziqhamo, kubonisa iziphumo, kwaye kungekudala siza kupapasha idatha yophando malunga nofudo nofudo lwaselwandle kunye notshintsho esilubhalileyo kule minyaka ingama-30 idlulileyo. Omnye unokucinga ukuba kuncinci okuhambileyo ngelo xesha kodwa ngokuchaseneyo; iziphumo zethu zophando zibonisa utshintsho olubaluleke kakhulu. Ubuninzi beefudo zaselwandle ezikhuselweyo, ngokomzekelo, ngenxa yemilinganiselo yokukhusela, zanda ngokuphindwe ka-8 kule minyaka ingama-30, nto leyo emangalisayo.
Noko ke, yintoni eyaziwa kakhulu yiAldabra ngamafudo amakhulu, ezenza iZiqithi zaseGalapagos zaziwa kakhulu. Abemi bethu bezi fudo zinkulu ngokwenene ziphindwe SHUMI inani lezo zifunyenwe kwiziqithi zaseGalapagos.
eTN: Kwaye akukho mntu uyaziyo le nto?
UGqr. Frauke: Ewe, asisakhuthali njengeZiqithi zaseGalapagos ekukhuthazeni olu lwazi; asivutheli ixilongo njengabo; kodwa sinawo amanani okungqina ukuba ngokwenani labemi, silinani eliNYE!
eTN: Ndiye ndafuna impendulo ngofudo baselwandle kunye nofudo olukhulu mva nje kwaye iimpendulo bezincinci. Ukuqwalasela oko undixelela kona ngoku, unethuba elikhulu lokhenketho lweendwendwe ezifuna ukubona ezo fudo ezinkulu, kodwa emva koko, ngokuqwalasela ukuwa kweGalapagos ngamanani abakhenkethi aphantse angazinzanga; abemi abasisigxina, abakhule ngokukhawuleza kumashumi eminyaka akutshanje; kunye nophuhliso lwezo ziqithi, ngaba ungcono ngeendwendwe ezincinci xa kuziwa ekukhuseleni indawo ebuthathaka kakhulu kunye nokukhusela iintlobo?
UGqr. Frauke: Le yingxoxo eqhubekayo, kwaye iingxoxo zibuyela emva naphambili - umdla wezorhwebo ngokuchasene nolondolozo kunye nomdla wophando. Ndicinga ukuba mhlawumbi ngamanye amaxesha izinto zibonakaliswa ngendlela ebaxiweyo njengesixhobo sokuphakamisa inkxaso-mali; kukho izimvo ezahlukeneyo ezivakaliswayo phakathi kwamalungu olondolozo lwendalo, oogxa bethu, kwaye sihlala sikuxoxa oku, kunjalo.
eTN: Bangaphi ke abakhenkethi abakhe bandwendwela kulo nyaka uphelileyo?
UGqr. Frauke: Okokuqala mandikuxelele ukuba i-atoll inkulu kangangokuba sonke isiqithi saseMahe siya kungena kumbindi wechibi, kwaye xa siqwalasela lo bukhulu, saba neendwendwe ezimalunga ne-1,500 kuphela eziza eAldabra. Eli, eneneni, lelona nani likhulu esakha saba nalo kunyaka omnye. Yaye ngenxa yokuba singenandawo yokumisa ngokuthe ngqo kweso siqithi [kukho umgama omalunga neekhilomitha ezingama-50 kwesinye isiqithi, noko ke], zonke ezi ndwendwe kwafuneka zize ngenqanawa okanye ngezikhephe zazo. Yeyona ndlela yokutyelela; asinazo iindawo zokuhlala iindwendwe apho, nangona, kunjalo, sinendawo yokuhlala yabaphandi, kodwa abakhenkethi abakhenkethi kufuneka babuyele rhoqo ngokuhlwa kwiinqanawa zabo kwaye bahlale apho ubusuku bonke. Akukho batyeleli beza, ngengozi, ngenqwelomoya yolwandle, ngenxa yokuba akukho zinqwelomoya zifanelekileyo zaselwandle ezifumanekayo eSeychelles ukugubungela loo mgama. Nabasebenzi bethu, iimpahla kunye nayo yonke into, ihamba kwaye iza ngenqanawa. Siya kuthi kuyo nayiphi na imeko silumke kakhulu malunga nokumisa iinqwelomoya ezinje kufuphi okanye kwi-atoll ngenxa yeenkxalabo zokusingqongileyo, ingxolo, impembelelo yokumisa kunye nokuhamba, njl. Iintaka zeFregate, kwaye nangona zingaphazanyiswa kukusondela kweenqanawa okanye iiyachts, ukuhla kwenqwelomoya okanye ukunduluka kuya kudala ukuphazamiseka kuloo mihlambi. Kwaye utyelelo lokhenketho kuyo nayiphi na imeko luthintelwe kwindawo ethile ye-atoll, ishiya yonke intsalela kuphando kunye nokukhusela i-ecosystem eethe-ethe ephantsi kwamanzi. Kodwa indawo evulekele ukhenketho yindawo yokuhlala kuzo zonke iintlobo zethu, ngoko ke abatyeleli bayakwazi ukubona into abayizeleyo; asikuko ukuba baya kudana, ngokuchasene noko. Siye safudusa ezinye iintlobo zeentaka apho, ngoko ke umntu oza kutyelela iindawo ezivulekileyo ze-atoll uya kubona inguqulelo encinci ye-atoll yonke.
eTN: Ngaba zikhona naziphi na izicwangciso zokwakha okanye ukunika umnyinyiva indawo yokulala kubakhenkethi ngobusuku abakhetha ukuhlala esiqithini endaweni yeenqanawa zabo?
UGqr. Cinga ukuba i-atoll ingaphezu kweekhilomitha ezili-1,000 ukusuka eMahe, kwaye nokuba umgama omkhulu ukuya kwezinye iinketho ezikufutshane ukusuka apho ungafikelela khona eAldabra, yithi iMadagascar okanye ilizwe laseAfrika, ke ukuzisa izinto zokwakha kulucelomngeni lokwenene. Ke, xa indawo yokulala ivuliwe, kufuneka ifumane izinto eziqhelekileyo zokuyigcina isebenza, ukutya, iziselo, ezinye izinto, kwaye kwakhona umgama mkhulu kakhulu ukuba ungafikeleleka ngokulula okanye unoqoqosho. Kwaye yonke inkunkuma, inkunkuma, yonke into emva koko kufuneka isuswe esiqithini kwakhona kwaye ibuyiselwe kwisixokelelwano esifanelekileyo sokulahla umgquba, ukurisayikilishwa, njl.
Ibhodi yethu yabaphathiswa ide yagunyazisa indawo yokulala yenxalenye yabakhenkethi ye-atoll, kodwa njengoko uthethwano nabaphuhlisi abanomdla beluqhubeka, ukwehla kwamandla emali kwangena, kwaye emva koko saqwalasela sonke isicwangciso kwakhona, ukuba sikwazile ukusebenzela oko. ixesha elide kunye neendwendwe eziza ngenqanawa kwaye zihlala kwiinqanawa zabo, ngaphandle kweehambo zabo elunxwemeni.
Ngeli xesha isiseko, i-trust, yasekwa kwi-atoll ye-Aldabra, kwaye ukukhuthazwa kweentlobo kwenzeka eYurophu ukunyusa imali, ukudala ulwazi.
Besinomboniso omkhulu kakhulu eParis kulo nyaka uphelileyo, kodwa mhlawumbi kusesekuseni kakhulu ukuba sivavanye ifuthe eliza kuba nalo i-trust, isiseko, ngokuphathelele ekufumaneni inkxaso-mali yomsebenzi wethu. Kodwa ke, sinethemba lokufumana imali engakumbi yokugcina umsebenzi wethu uqhubeka; kuyabiza, ngokubanzi, kwaye ngokukodwa ngenxa yemigama emide.
Kodwa makhe ndize kwindawo yesibini ye-UNESCO yeLifa leMveli yeHlabathi esiphathiswe yona - iVallee de Mai.
Le yindawo yokuqala yabakhenkethi ePraslin, kwaye, eneneni, iindwendwe ezininzi ziza imini zivela eMahe okanye kwezinye iziqithi ukuza kubona le paki. Iindwendwe eziya eSeychelles ziza elunxwemeni, kodwa uninzi lwazo ziyeza ukuza kubona indalo yethu, kwaye iVallee de Mai yindawo eyaziwayo kwihlabathi jikelele yokubona indalo yethu phantse ingachukunyiswa. Sicinga ukuba phantse isiqingatha sazo zonke iindwendwe eziya eSeychelles nazo zindwendwela iVallee de Mai ukuze zibone ihlathi elikhethekileyo lesundu kwaye, ewe, icoco de mer - le coconut emile ngokukodwa ifunyenwe apho.
Kulapha apho sisebenza ngokusondeleyo nebhodi yabakhenkethi ekukhuthazeni lo mtsalane, kwaye kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo sivule iziko elitsha labatyeleli ekungeneni kwepaki. (i-eTN yanika ingxelo malunga noku ngelo xesha.) Umongameli wethu wavula iziko ngoDisemba, nto leyo eyasinika usasazo oluninzi kwaye yabonisa nokuba umsebenzi wethu unentsikelelo evela kwintloko yelizwe nakurhulumente jikelele. Umongameli ukwanguMxhasi wethu weSeychelles Island Foundation, kwakhona ebonisa indlela oxatyiswe ngayo umsebenzi wethu.
Kwaye ngoku makhe ndichaze ikhonkco phakathi kwezi sayithi zimbini. Senza ingeniso eninzi kwiVallee de Mai kwaye, ngokuqinisekileyo, sixhasa ibhodi yabakhenkethi ngokunika ukufikelela simahla kwiintatheli, kumaqela eearhente zokuhamba eziziswa yi-STB, kodwa ingeniso evela kwiindwendwe isetyenziselwa ukuxhasa umsebenzi kuphela. apho, kodwa okuninzi kuya kwimisebenzi yophando kunye nomsebenzi owenziwe e-Aldabra, apho ingeniso evela kwinani elincinane elithelekisekayo labatyeleli alikho ngokwaneleyo intlawulo yemisebenzi yethu apho. Ngoko ke, iindwendwe eziza kwiVallee de Mai ezihlawula umrhumo ophezulu wokutyelela loo paki kwaye zibone ihlathi lesundu kunye ne-coco de mer kufuneka zikwazi oko kwenziwa ngemali yabo. Ayililo nje olo tyelelo, kodwa ixhasa umsebenzi wethu kunye namanyathelo olondolozo kumgama oziikhilomitha ezili-1,000 ukusuka e-Aldabra, kwaye abafundi bakho kufuneka bazi malunga nayo - izizathu ezisemva kwe-20 ye-Euro ngomntu ngamnye kwimirhumo yokungena ePraslin. Siphinde sikhankanye kwiziko leendwendwe kunye neziboniso, ngokuqinisekileyo, kodwa olunye ulwazi malunga nalo aluyi kulimaza.
De kube yiminyaka emithathu edlulileyo, sasibiza i-euro ezili-15; besijonge ukunyusa imirhumo ukuya kwi-euro ezingama-25 kodwa imeko yoqoqosho lwehlabathi kunye nokudodobala okwethutyana kushishino lokhenketho emva koko kwasiqinisekisa ukuba sibize kuqala umrhumo ophakathi wama-20 eeuro. Oko kwaxoxwa neenkampani zethu zolawulo lwendawo ekuyiwa kuyo, abaphathi abaphantsi, kodwa nabameli beearhente zaphesheya kunye nabaqhubi kwaye ekugqibeleni kwavunyelwana ngako. Ngoku sineziko elitsha labatyeleli kwisango elikhulu, amaziko angcono, ukuze babone ukuba siphinda sityala imali kwimveliso ngomdla wokunika iinkonzo ezingcono kubakhenkethi. Inyathelo elilandelayo liya kuba linika ukhetho ikofu, iti, okanye ezinye iziphungo kubatyeleli, kodwa hayi indawo yokuhlala. Kukho iihotele ezikufutshane kunye neendawo ekuchithelwa kuzo iiholide - ezo ziyakwanela kwiindwendwe ezihlala ePraslin ngobusuku.
eTN: Ndike ndafunda kudala ngeziganeko zokonyuka kwezigigaba zokubiwa kwe-coco de mer, oko kukuthi, zibiwa kwimithi yesundu, kubandakanywa nowona mthi ufotwe kakhulu ngasesangweni. Injani imeko apha ngokwenene?
UGqr. Frauke: Okulusizi kukuba oku kuyinyaniso. Kukho izizathu ezininzi zoko, hayi nje esinye. Sisabela kwezi ziganeko ngokuzenza esidlangalaleni, sixelele abantu abahlala epaki ukuba yintoni umonakalo owenzayo kunye nendlela echaphazela ngayo ikamva lexesha elide lepaki, kunye nazo zonke iindwendwe eziza apho ukuza kubona i-coco de mer iintaka ezinqabileyo kuloo ndawo yokuhlala. Ezi ndwendwe zixhasa uqoqosho lwengingqi, kwaye, ke ngoko, uluntu oluhlala kufutshane neVallee de Mai kufuneka lwazi ukuba ukuzingela ngokungekho mthethweni okanye ukubiwa kwecoco de mer kwenza umonakalo omkhulu kwaye kunokubeka emngciphekweni umvuzo kunye nemisebenzi yabo. Kukho isibini nje samawaka abantu abahlala ePraslin, ngoko asithethi ngabahlali abakhulu kakhulu, kwaye iilali neendawo zokuhlala ezingqonge le paki zihlala [kwinani] elincinane labantu; ezo zinjongo zethu kweli phulo lolwazi. Kodwa sikwaqinise ucupho kunye nokubeka iliso ukuze sithintele ngokusebenzayo izehlo ezifanayo kwixesha elizayo.
eTN: Ibhodi yabakhenkethi izimisele ukuzisa bonke abemi baseSeychelles ngasemva kwingcinga yabo yokuba ukhenketho lelona shishini liphambili kunye nomqeshi, kwaye wonke umntu kufuneka axhase onke amanyathelo afunekayo ukugcina oku kuqhubeka. Ingakunceda njani i-STB kunye norhulumente apho?
UGqr. Frauke: Kufuneka nje baxelele wonke umntu ngale miba, babaxelele ngempembelelo, iziphumo zokhenketho, kwaye ukuba wonke umntu uyakuxhasa oku kufuneka sibone iziphumo. Umyalezo ocacileyo nonamandla, wokuba iSeychelles ayinakukwazi ukuphulukana nomtsalane onjalo, iya kusinceda emsebenzini wethu. Kwaye kufuneka iqondwe, ukuba sifumana umvuzo omncinci ngeVallee de Mai, asinakukwazi ukuqhubeka nenqanaba lethu lomsebenzi eAldabra nokuba, oku kucace gca.
USihlalo we-STB ukwangusihlalo wethu webhodi yetrasti, ngoko kukho unxibelelwano oluthe ngqo phakathi kwe-SIF ne-STB. Umongameli ngumxhasi wethu. Asinazintloni zokusebenzisa la makhonkco ngendlela esebenzayo, kwaye emva kwayo yonke loo nto kuluncedo kushishino lwezokhenketho esikwenzayo, kuluncedo kwilizwe liphela. Ndikholelwe, asikho i-tiptoeing apho kufuneka khona inyathelo, kwaye siyakwazi ukufikelela kumaziko ethu karhulumente kwaye siwasebenzise ngenjongo yokulondoloza.
Kwaye ngala makhonkco sixoxa ngezakhiwo zethu zomrhumo, izicwangciso zethu zokunyuka kweefizi kwixesha elizayo, kwaye siyavumelana nazo, kunjalo; oku akwenzeki sisodwa sithi sodwa, kodwa sicebisana nabanye abachaphazelekayo.
eTN: EMpuma Afrika, abaphathi beepaki zethu, i-UWA, KWS, TANAPA, kunye ne-ORTPN, ngoku baxoxa kunye necandelo labucala kwiminyaka kwangaphambili malunga nokonyuswa okucwangcisiweyo okulandelayo, ngamanye amaxesha kwiminyaka emibini ngaphambili. Ngaba wenza okufanayo apha?
UGqr. Frauke: Siyazi ukuba, siyazi ukuba abaqhubi bezokhenketho eYurophu baceba unyaka, unyaka kunye nesiqingatha ngaphambili kunye namaxabiso abo; siyayazi, kuba sisebenzisana ne-STB kunye neminye imibutho esinika igalelo neengcebiso zayo. Kwakhona yinkqubo yokwakha ukuzithemba. Kudala kudala, besisenza ngokwahlukileyo kule siyenzayo namhlanje, ngoko ke amahlakani ethu, abachaphazelekayo kukhenketho, kufuneka bazi ukuba sinoqikelelo oluqikelelwayo kwaye singazami nje ukuba sifumane enye phezu kwabo. Sisendleleni yokuphumeza oku, nangona kunjalo.
eTN: Zeziphi ezinye iiprojekthi osebenza kuzo ngoku; zithini izicwangciso zakho kwixesha elizayo? Ngoku ujonge iindawo ezimbini ze-UNESCO zeLifa leMveli leHlabathi; yintoni elandelayo?
UGqr. Ilizwe linamaziko, anoxanduva lokulawula ezi ndawo kunye nothotho lweeNGOs ezincedisayo kule misebenzi. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba singawuphucula ngakumbi umsebenzi esiwenzayo ngoku kwiindawo ezimbini ze-UNESCO zeLifa leMveli leHlabathi e-Aldabra nasePraslin, songeza kwiinkqubo zethu zophando. Enye idatha yethu ngoku ineminyaka engama-43 ubudala, ngoko lixesha lokongeza ulwazi olutsha, ukuseka idatha entsha kwezo ndawo, ngoko uphando luhlala luqhubeka kwaye lufuna ukongeza ulwazi olutsha. Kodwa sijonge umceli mngeni omtsha eVallee de Mai, njengoko bekutshiwo ngaphambili kude kube ngoku yipaki yeendwendwe engaqwalaselwanga kangako kuphando. Ngokufuthi kwixesha elidlulileyo, abantu abasuka kumazwe angaphandle abanemvelaphi yophando babetyelela le paki baze babelane nathi ngenkcazelo. Ngoku, sisebenza ngokuqhubekayo kule paki, kwaye kulo nyaka uphelileyo, umzekelo, safumanisa uhlobo olutsha lwesele, ebelihlala epakini kodwa lingafunyaniswanga ngokoqobo. Olunye lophando luyinxalenye yeethisisi zeenkosi, kwaye siyakha koku ngokongeza umda omtsha ngalo lonke ixesha. Njengomzekelo, olunye uphando olutsha lugxile kwimikhwa yokuzalela kunye nokuzala kweentaka, ukuchonga ukuba mangaphi amaqanda ezibekayo, mangaphi na aqanduselweyo, kodwa songeze amathuba ophando kwi-coco de mer ngokwayo; asazi ngokwaneleyo malunga nayo okwangoku kwaye kufuneka sazi ngakumbi ukukhusela ngokusebenzayo indawo yayo yokuhlala kunye neentlobo. Ngamanye amazwi, uphando lwethu luya kwandiswa ngokuqhubekayo.
Kwaye ke sinenye iprojekthi eqhubekayo. Ndanditshilo ngaphambili ukuba sasinomboniso omkhulu eParis kulo nyaka uphelileyo malunga ne-Aldabra, kwaye ngoku sithethathethana norhulumente ukuba azise imiboniso, amaxwebhu avela kulo mboniso eSeychelles kwaye abonise ngokusisigxina kwi-Aldabra House e-Mahe apho iindwendwe. banokufunda malunga ne-atoll, umsebenzi esiwenzayo apho, imingeni yolondolozo, kwanabo bangenalo ithuba lokutyelela ngokwenene i-Aldabra. Isakhiwo esinjalo, siyathemba, siya kuba neeteknoloji ezihlaza zakutshanje ekwakhiweni, ngokumalunga nokusebenza, njengoko emva kokuba konke ukuzinza kunye nokugcinwa kweempawu zeSeychelles Island Foundation. Kolu nxulumano, kubalulekile ukukhankanya ukuba ngoku siphuhlisa isicwangciso esiphambili sokwazisa imithombo yamandla ahlaziyekayo kwiprojekthi yethu e-Aldabra, kwisikhululo sophando kunye nenkampu yonke, ukunciphisa unikezelo olubiza kakhulu lwedizili, iindleko zokuthutha. Liwaka leekhilomitha ukuya kwindawo, kwaye yehlise indawo yethu yekhabhoni yobukho bethu kwi-atoll. Ngoku sele sizimisele ngokupheleleyo iimfuno zethu, kwaye inyathelo elilandelayo ngoku kukuphunyezwa kokutshintsha ukusuka kwijenereyitha ye-diesel ukuya kumandla elanga. Ukukunika umzobo, iipesenti ezingama-60 zohlahlo lwabiwo-mali lwethu [zibekelwe] ecaleni kwedizili kunye nokuthuthwa kwedizili kwi-atoll yaseAldabra, kwaye xa siguqulelwe kumandla elanga, le mali inokusetyenziswa ngendlela esebenzayo, ngendlela engcono. . Kutshanje siqalise uphando lwezofuzo kwiintlobo esinazo kwi-Aldabra atoll, kodwa lo ngumsebenzi obiza imali eninzi, kwaye xa sinokuqalisa ukonga idizili, sinokutshintsha imali kwezo ndawo zophando ngokomzekelo.
eTN: Bunjani ubudlelwane bakho neeyunivesithi zaphesheya, ezisuka eJamani, kwezinye iindawo?
UGqr. Ebesuka kwiDyunivesithi yaseHalle, kwaye ngoku ubuyile ukuza kuphumeza le projekthi njengenxalenye yomsebenzi wakhe olandelayo. Enye intsebenziswano esinayo [yi] neYunivesithi yase-Erfurt eJamani, ekhokelayo kwinkalo yogcino lwamandla, ukonga umbane. Sikwanobudlelwane obugqwesileyo bokusebenza kunye neDyunivesithi yase-Eidgenoessische eZurich, kunye neqela lamakhono abo, enyanisweni, [ngokomzekelo] uphando lwemfuza kwi-coco de mer. Umzekelo, sinamacandelo ophando ukusukela ngo-1982, kwaye sihlalutya utshintsho kula macandelo neeyunivesithi zangaphandle. Sisebenza kunye Cambridge, ngokusondeleyo kakhulu enyanisweni; ICambridge ibe yeyona nto iqhubayo kwiiprojekthi zophando eAldabra. Ngabo, sisebenza kwi-remote sensing, sithelekisa imifanekiso yesathelayithi kwithuba lexesha, utshintsho lokurekhoda, ukwenza imephu ye-lagoon kunye nezinye iindawo, kuquka ukuvelisa iimephu zezityalo. Oku kusivumela ukuba sichonge utshintsho olubonwe kule minyaka ingama-30 idlulileyo ukusukela oko sathi saseka uphando oluqinileyo eAldabra. Lo msebenzi, ngokuqinisekileyo, ufikelela kwiinguqu zemozulu, ukunyuka kumanqanaba amanzi, impembelelo yokunyuka kwamaqondo obushushu kwiifom zobomi basemanzini. NgeYunivesithi yase-East Anglia yase-UK, sikwaqhuba iinkqubo ezidibeneyo kunye neeprojekthi ezifana nalapha, ngakumbi i-parrot emnyama kunye neentlobo ezithile zegeckos. Kodwa kwakhona sinonxibelelwano oluthe rhoqo kunye nabaphandi baseMelika, njengakwiMyuziyam yeNdalo yaseChicago, kwaye ngaphambili sasinentsebenziswano kunye neNational Geographic Society, ngokuqinisekileyo, lowo umsebenzi wethu wawunomdla kakhulu. Kunyaka ophelileyo beze nohambo olukhulu eAldabra, ke umdla wabo uhlala uphezulu. Elinye iqela elifanayo eliququzelelwe yiConservation International bekumele lisityelele ngoJanuwari, kodwa imiba yobuqhetseba yenza ukuba bangakwazi ukuza kulo nyaka.
eTN: IPirates, ekufutshane ne-Aldabra, ingaba yinyani leyo?
UGqr. Frauke: Ewe, ngelishwa kunjalo. Sinezinye zezo zikhephe ezisondele kakhulu, kwaye enyanisweni olunye uhambo lokuntywila lwazisusa ngokukhawuleza xa lusondela. Baye kwisiqithi esikumgama oziikhilomitha ezingama-50 apho kukho isikhululo seenqwelomoya, emva koko babakhupha abathengi babo apho, ngoko oku kuyinyani. Elo phenyane lokuntywila, nelalisetyenziswa njengeqonga labatshuzi, laqweqwediswa ngoMatshi wonyaka ophelileyo. Ibhodi yethu yabaphathiswa, enyanisweni, yawuxoxa lo mba, njengoko ubuqhetseba obungqonge amanzi ethu e-Aldabra bunefuthe kumanani abatyeleli; kukho imiba ye-inshurensi yabaqhubi beenqanawa zohambo eziza e-Aldabra kwaye, ngokuqinisekileyo, imiba yokhuseleko ngokubanzi.
eTN: Ukuba ndifumana oku kulungile, kukho ibala leenqwelomoya kwisiqithi esikumgama oziikhilomitha ezingama-50 ukusuka eAldabra; ngaba oko bekungayi kukhuthaza iindwendwe ukuba zibhabhe ziye kweso siqithi zize zisebenzise amaphenyane asuka apho?
UGqr. Frauke: Kwithiyori ewe, kodwa sinemisinga enamandla kakhulu kunye namaza aphakamileyo, kuxhomekeke kwixesha, ngoko oku kuya kuba nzima kakhulu ukufezekisa, kwaye ngokubanzi iindwendwe zethu ziza kunye neenqanawa zabo zohambo kwaye emva koko zimise i-Aldabra ubude bexesha lotyelelo lwabo, ngokwesiqhelo malunga neentsuku ezi-4.
Umntu unokuzama ngexesha likaNovemba ukuya kuMatshi/ekuqaleni kuka-Epreli, kodwa unyaka wonke, iilwandle zidla ngokurhabaxa kakhulu.
Kwi-Aldabra sihlawulisa umrhumo weendwendwe we-euro eyi-100 ngomntu, ngosuku lobukho. Kananjalo loo mrhumo, ngendlela, uyasebenza kubasebenzi abakhwele enqanaweni nokuba beza elunxwemeni okanye hayi, akubizi mali iphantsi ukuza kundwendwela iAldabra; liqela elikhethekileyo labatyeleli abanomdla ngokwenene. Ngapha koko, zonke izikhephe, iinqanawa, okanye iiyacht ezimisa i-Aldabra kufuneka, ngokwemigaqo yethu, zibe nabasebenzi bethu ngalo lonke ixesha ngelixa bekwi-ankile ukuqinisekisa ukuthobela umgaqo wethu kunye nokuphepha nayiphi na into yongcoliseko emanzini ethu. . Oko kusebenza kutyelelo lwaselunxwemeni nakwiihambo zabo zokuntywila.
eTN: ISeychelles ibhiyozela umnyhadala waminyaka le phantsi kwamanzi, “iSubios” – ingaba iAldabra ibikhe yagxila kulo mnyhadala?
UGqr. Frauke: Ewe kwakunjalo, kwiminyaka embalwa eyadlulayo; oyena mntu uphumeleleyo kumnyhadala ufotwe ukusuka eMahe ukuya eAldabra, kwaye yasifumana ingqalelo enkulu, kunjalo. Amanye amangenelo aliqela kwiifilim eziphantsi kwamanzi ezithathwe kufutshane ne-Aldabra atoll nawo aphumelele amabhaso aphambili kwixa elidlulileyo.
eTN: Yeyiphi eyona nto ikukhathazayo, ucinga ukuba ngowuphi umyalezo ofuna ukuwuthumela kubafundi bethu?
UGqr. Frauke: Yintoni ebaluleke kakhulu kuthi kwi-SIF kukuba asinazo iindawo ezimbini ze-UNESCO zeLifa leMveli leMveli, kodwa ukuba sizigcine, sizigcine zicocekile, zikhusele kwaye zigcinwe kwizizukulwana ezizayo, zaseSeychellois kunye nakwezinye iindawo. Umhlaba. Lo AYINGOmsebenzi wethu kuphela kwiSeychelles Island Foundation, kodwa ngumsebenzi welizwe lethu, urhulumente, abantu. Siyazi, umzekelo, ukuba iindwendwe eziya eSeychelles ngokubanzi ziye zaya kwezinye iindawo ezininzi ngaphambili, kwaye xa iindwendwe ezinjalo zabelana ngemibono yazo yeendawo zethu nabantu abahlala kufutshane okanye izikhokelo, abaqhubi abadibana nabo, ke wonke umntu uyazi. zibaluleke kangakanani ezi ndawo zimbini, ngakumbi leyo isePraslin kuthi eSeychelles, ngeenjongo zokhenketho.
Umsebenzi wolondolozo lwendalo kwiziqithi uneengcambu ezinzulu; abantu bethu apha bayayixabisa indalo ecocekileyo, rhoqo ngenxa yokuba bahlala kuyo, jonga ukhenketho lwengqesho oluzisa, ekulobeni, ngaphandle kwe-ecosystem ecocekileyo, ngaphandle kwamanzi acocekileyo, amahlathi angaguqukiyo, konke oku akunakwenzeka. Xa umnini hotele esiva ngeendwendwe ukuba zize apha ngenxa yendalo engekachukunyiswa nengonakaliswanga, iilwandle, iipaki zaselwandle ezingaphantsi kwamanzi, ngoko uye aqonde ukuba ikamva labo linxibelelene ngokupheleleyo nemigudu yethu yokulondoloza, yaye bayawuxhasa umsebenzi wethu. kwaye sime emva kwemigudu yethu.
eTN: Ingaba urhulumente uzimisele emsebenzini wakho, ukukuxhasa?
UGqr. ungumxhasi wethu ngokuzikhethela kwaye uwuxhasa ngokupheleleyo umsebenzi wethu. Uyachazelwa, agcinwe enolwazi ngomsebenzi wethu, imingeni yethu, kwaye, umzekelo, xa sasivula iziko labatyeleli leVallee de Mai, weza ngaphandle kokulibazisa ukuza kuqhuba ngexesha lomsitho wokuvula.
[Okwangoku, uGqirha Frauke ubonise incwadi yeendwendwe, awathi umongameli wayityikitya ngelo xesha, walandelwa ngusekela mongameli okwanguMphathiswa wezoKhenketho, into emangalisayo ukuba umongameli akazange asebenzise iphepha elipheleleyo kodwa wasebenzisa. , njengazo zonke ezinye iindwendwe emva koko, umgca OMNYE, isenzo esithobeke kakhulu: James Michel at www.statehouse.gov.sc.]
eTN: Kwezi nyanga zidlulileyo, bendihlala ndifunda malunga notyalo-mali olutsha kwiziqithi ezitsha ebezikade zingahlali bantu, iindawo zokuhlala zabucala, iindawo ekuchithelwa kuzo iiholide zabucala; iinkxalabo zaphakanyiswa malunga nemiba yokusingqongileyo, ukukhuselwa kwamanzi nomhlaba, izityalo nezilwanyana.
UGqr. Frauke: Ngokomzekelo, kukho inkxalabo, xa kusenzeka inkqubela kwiziqithi ezitsha ngokuziswa kweentlobo ezihlaselayo zalo naluphi na uhlobo; olunjalo lunokuhlasela kwaye luphantse luthathe iintyatyambo kwisiqithi ukuba azibonwa kwasekuqaleni kwaye zilungiswe. Akukho lizwe namhlanje elinokukwazi ukungasebenzisi izixhobo zalo, zonke izibonelelo zalo, kodwa kubalulekile ukuba abatyali-mali, abaphuhlisi bazi kwasekuqaleni ukuba yeyiphi imigaqo nemiqathango esebenzayo, ukuba baqonde imimiselo yovavanyo lwempembelelo yokusingqongileyo kunye nengxelo kunye amanyathelo okunciphisa, ekufuneka athathwe, kufuneka athathwe, ukunciphisa impembelelo yophuhliso.
Ke ukuba umtyali-mali uza apha, esona sizathu siphambili sabo kukuba yinxalenye yendalo yethu, kwaye ukuba oko konakaliswa, utyalo-mali lwabo, nabo, lusengozini, kunjalo, okanye kufuneka, kumdla wabo ukuxhasa oku, ngakumbi xa bazi kwangethuba ukuba zeziphi iindleko eziya kubandakanyeka kubo ukongeza kulwakhiwo lwendawo ekuchithelwa kuyo iiholide, njl.njl., ngokubhekiselele kukhuseleko lokusingqongileyo kunye namanyathelo okunciphisa kwixesha elide.
Ngethuba nje abatyali-mali abatsha behamba kunye nale nto, sinokuphila nayo, kodwa ukuba umphuhlisi ufika nje ukuba akhuphe yonke into ngaphandle kwendlela, ngoko sinengxaki enkulu ngezimo zengqondo ezinjalo, ngengqondo enjalo. Ukukhuselwa kwendalo kusitshixo kwikamva leshishini lezokhenketho laseSeychelles, ngoko ke kufuneka libe phambili kulo lonke uphuhliso lwexesha elizayo.
Akunaxesha lakuthi, kulungile, yiza kwaye utyale, kwaye siya kubona; hayi, kufuneka sibe nazo zonke iinkcukacha kwitheyibhile ukususela ekuqaleni, kubandakanywa amathuba omsebenzi kubasebenzi baseSeychellois, ngokuqinisekileyo, ukubanika amathuba ngophuhliso olutsha olunjalo. Leyo yintlalontle, inkcubeko, icandelo, elibaluleke kakhulu njengecandelo lokusingqongileyo kunye nolondolozo.
Oku kuphuma nakwimvelaphi yam; ngemfundo eyona nkalo yam yayiza kuba kulondolozo lwendalo, kodwa kwakhona ndasebenza iminyaka ethile kwinkonzo ejongene nemekobume apho ndandijongene nemiba yophuhliso lokhenketho. Ngoko ke ayonto intsha kum kwaye indinika umbono obanzi. Enyanisweni, ndikhumbula ukuba ebudeni beminyaka yam kobo bulungiseleli, sasinabafundi abaliqela ababesenza ithisisi yeenkosi zabo, besebenza kwimibandela yozinzo, besenza oko namhlanje sinokukubiza ngokuba ziitemplates, yaye uninzi lwaloo nto nanamhlanje isabalulekile. Siphuhlise iindlela, ezisasetyenziswayo, kwaye nangona kuninzi kuphuhlisiwe kwaye kuhambele phambili ukusukela ngoko, iziseko zisasebenza. Ngoko abatyali-mali kufuneka bayamkele le nto, basebenze ngaphakathi kwezikhokelo ezinjalo, ngoko ke uphuhliso olutsha lunokuvunyelwa.
eTN: Ngaba i-SIF nangayiphi na indlela ibandakanyeka kwiingxoxo malunga nokukhutshwa kwelayisensi yeeprojekthi ezintsha; ngaba ubuzwa ngokusesikweni? Ndiyaqonda kwezinye iingxoxo ukuba iindawo ekuchithelwa kuzo iiholide neehotele ezikhoyo ziyakhuthazwa ukuba zizibandakanye kuphicotho-zincwadi lwe-ISO, kwaye iiprojekthi ezintsha zinikwa ikhathalogu yeemfuno ezongeziweyo ngoku phambi kokuba ziqhubeke.
UGqr. Frauke: Siyinxalenye yamaqela othethwano anikwe uxanduva lokujonga imiba elolu hlobo; kunjalo, urhulumente uyabusebenzisa ubuchule bethu, afune igalelo lethu, kwaye sithatha inxaxheba kumaqumrhu anjengolawulo lokusingqongileyo oluzinikeleyo, kodwa malunga namanye amaqela asebenzayo ali-10 afanayo, apho sinikezela ngolwazi namava ethu kwinqanaba lobugcisa. I-Seychelles inesicwangciso solawulo lwendalo esingqongileyo [uhlelo lwangoku luka-2000 ukuya kowama-2010] esibe negalelo kuso nalapho sinceda khona ngohlelo olulandelayo. Sisebenzisana kwiiphaneli zelizwe malunga nokutshintsha kwemozulu, ukhenketho oluzinzileyo; kukho iiprojekthi esisebenza kuzo phantsi kwesihloko se-GEF, kwiqela leengcali, okanye nakwizigaba zokuphunyezwa,
eTN: Equkumbeleni, umbuzo wobuqu – unexesha elingakanani eSeychelles kwaye yintoni ekuzise apha?
UGqr. Frauke: Ngoku ndihlala apha iminyaka engama-20 edluleyo. Nditshatile apha; Ndadibana nomyeni wam eyunivesithi apho sasifunda kunye, kwaye akazange afune ukuhlala eJamani-wayefuna ukuza ekhaya eSeychelles, ndiye ndagqiba ekubeni ndifudukele apha, nam, kodwa ndonelisekile kakhulu sisigqibo sam. yenziwe ngoko - akukho kuzisola konke konke. Selikhaya lam ngoku. Ndichithe bonke ubomi bam bomsebenzi onemveliso eSeychelles emva kwezifundo zam, emva kokuza apha, kwaye bendihlala ndonwabele ukusebenza apha, ngakumbi ngoku njengeCEO yeSIF.
eTN: Enkosi, Dr. Frauke, ngexesha lakho lokuphendula imibuzo yethu.
Ukufumana ulwazi oluthe kratya malunga nomsebenzi weSeychelles Island Foundation. nceda undwendwele www.sif.sc okanye ubhalele kubo nge [imeyile ikhuselwe] or [imeyile ikhuselwe] .
